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“70% Want SA Poor?” Dawie Roodt & Bonsai Shongwe’s Brutal 2029 Warning (Live Q&A)

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Описание: Live audience Q&A with Dawie Roodt and Bonsai Shongwe — covering the viral “Groenewald for President” moment, why politics is shifting fast, and why 2029 is the real battleground.

IN THIS EPISODE
• “Groenewald for President”: unintended consequences and why it went mainstream
• Trump vs Zuma: why comparisons backfire (and why that matters politically)
• Can AI make “scientific communism” possible? (Dawie’s argument)
• Europe vs USA: interventionism, productivity, and the Trump shock
• The ANC’s blind spot: South Africans are economically aspirational
• DA vs ANC: what values look like when you’re willing to lose votes for them
• The question that detonates the room: “70% want SA poor?”
• The numbers: civil servants, grants, and the collapsing tax base
• BEE + the R100bn fund: why it could become “buy your BEE” and end it
• 2029 outlook: civil society, SARB, courts, media — and why the next 5 years get messy
• The “missing party”: a common-sense centre movement… is one coming?

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Chapters:
0:00 Reverse Oreo setup + audience Q&A kickoff
0:39 Groenewald for President: unintended consequences explained
1:14 Trump vs Zuma comparison — why it triggered both sides
2:16 How the “Groenewald” meme started (and how it flipped)
3:12 Bonsai: the comments shifted — “oompit is mine” moment
4:55 Dawie: why communism is easier today (AI + data)
6:26 How Soviet “scientific communism” worked (prices + allocation)
8:42 Trump jolting Europe: interventionism, productivity, rightward shift
10:10 Maslow critique → ANC misreads aspiration
12:52 Bonsai: SA is aspirational (even on grants) + parties miss it
14:07 DA leadership question + why DA should keep its values
15:44 Dawie: why Hill-Lewis stands out
16:32 Audience question: “70% want SA poor — what about 30%?”
17:37 Mike: 70% bloc vs 30% just wanting pain to stop
18:36 Dawie: civil service incentives + “we can’t afford it”
20:05 The tax base crisis: dependency vs taxpayers
21:03 Education spending vs outcomes (system failure)
22:00 “Cutting spend” vs spending better (growth-first argument)
23:07 Mike: BEE’s entrepreneurship penalty
24:24 Dawie: small business myths + where growth really comes from
26:00 Dawie: R100bn fund could “end BEE” (buy your compliance)
27:20 Audience: “What happens in 2029?” (new party question)
28:05 Mike: the missing common-sense centre party + doing it right
29:10 Dawie: what ANC didn’t destroy (courts, SARB, media, democracy)
30:05 Bonsai: next 5 years loud & messy + ACDP attention may grow
32:10 Dawie: ANC accidentally privatized everything
33:06 Closing thanks + call to support + optimism outro

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