Jugar, Design & Pakistan’s Culture | Durre Shehwar Ali x Usman Ahmed | Indus Voices Podcast
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Pakistan runs on Jugar, from the bustling streets of Karachi to the elite cafes of Lahore, from Dubai’s order to our chaos. In this powerful and witty episode of Indus Voices Podcast, host Usman Ahmed sits down with Ms. Durre Shehwar Ali, Assistant Professor at BNU, to decode what "Jugar" really means for Pakistan, not just as a survival skill, but as a cultural design philosophy.
Durre, an expert in design, politics, and technology, breaks down how design thinking, social media, and class privilege shape the way we live, work, and even dream. From elite ka Jugar vs. ghareeb ka Jugar to Ammi’s blue ticks and data mining companies versus rishta aunties, this conversation weaves humor, critique, and introspection into one thread.
The episode travels across cities and ideas: Karachi’s chaos, Lahore’s nostalgia, and Dubai’s curated perfection. Exploring how public spaces, malls, and architecture silently reflect social divides. Why are Lahore’s bookstores empty? Why do our parks ban music? Why is our design aesthetic slowly being Arabized?
From heritage and truck art to freedom of speech and surveillance, Durre unpacks how creativity can either liberate or constrain. Together, she and Usman explore whether design can truly shift power, and if Pakistan’s Jugar is genius, rebellion, or both.
Funny, thought-provoking, and deeply Pakistani, this episode reflects on who designs our lives and who gets left out. Perfect for anyone curious about Pakistani culture, design, politics, and everyday life from a progressive, intellectual lens.
Watch now, where design meets democracy, and Jugar becomes philosophy.
Chapters
00:00 Preview: It’s Jugar Time!
01:36 Meet Durre Shehwar Ali: The Design Mind of BNU
02:29 What Exactly Is Jugar?
03:42 Elite Ka Jugar vs Ghareeb Ka Jugar
05:54 Karachi’s Jugar Map: DHA to Korangi
08:31 Is Jugar a Kind of Design Thinking?
10:20 Social Media aur Democracy ka Rishta
12:15 Durre on Whatsapp University Graduates
14:14 "Freedom of speech is a hoax"
16:21 Universities aur unke Design Follies
19:08 Pakistan mein surveillance? Ammi ka blue tick check karna?
21:57 Why Pakistan Lacks Humility
23:11 Data Mining Companies vs Rishta Aunties
25:20 "Jinn say dar nahi lagta, insan say lagta hai"
25:42 Privacy in Pakistan: Alien Concept?
31:38 New Malls Everywhere: Who Benefits?
33:22 Usman ❤️ Dubai, Durre Just Likes It
33:55 "Lahore is the most livable city in Pakistan"
34:41 All Sindhis Should Go Straight to Heaven!
36:48 Public Spaces: For All or Just the Elite?
39:01 Hostile Architecture: Built to Exclude?
40:41 Public Benches and Democratic Segregation
43:12 Lahore Parks: No Music, No Fun?
44:19 Cute Bookstores, No Readers?
47:15 Heritage Talk: Usman’s Favorite Topic
49:03 Arabization in Pakistani Design: Khuda Hafiz vs Allah Hafiz
52:11 Mohenjodaro Architecture vs Modern Lahore Homes
53:21 "Kya design ghurbat jaisay maslay hal kar sakta hai?"
56:41 Pakistan’s Design Identity: Truck Art and Henna Only?
57:33 Can Design Create Power Shifts?
59:10 A Heartfelt Message for Pakistan’s Youth
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