Priscilla's Invitation: Jesus's Identity Part 1, Is Jesus a Myth?
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Katherine Cardiff’s Sources for Quotations
1 Maurice Casey, Jesus: Evidence and Argument or Mythicist Myths? (Bloomsbury Academic, 2014), 2.
2 Bart D. Ehrman, Did Jesus Exist? The Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth, EPub (HarperOne, 2012), 9.
3 Ehrman, DJE?, 9.
4 Ignatius (Ignatius to the Trallians, 9), quoted by Ehrman in DJE?, 80.
5 Craig A. Evans, “Jesus in Non-Christian Sources,” in Studying the Historical Jesus: Evaluations of the State of Current Research, ed. Craig A. Evans and Bruce Chilton, vol. 19, New Testament Tools and Studies (E. J. Brill, 1994), 443.
6 Pliny the Younger (Epistles Book 10, Letter 96), quoted by Craig Evans in “JNCS,” 459.
7 Gary R. Habermas, On the Resurrection: Evidences, vol. 1 (B&H Academic, 2024), 206.
8 Paul Barnett, Jesus and the Logic of History, New Studies in Biblical Theology 3 (InterVarsity Press, 1997), 33.
9 Habermas, OtR:E, 191.
10 Tacitus in Annals 15.44, as quoted by Habermas, OtR:E, 191-192. Habermas notes: “all translations of Tacitus from Church and Brodribb, Works of Tacitus.”
11 Evans, “JNCS,” 466.
12 Josephus (Ant. 20.9.1), quoted by Mark Strauss, Four Portraits, One Jesus: A Survey of Jesus and the Gospels, 2nd ed. (Zondervan, 2020), 49.
13 Barnett, JLH, 37.
14 Casey, J:EAMM?, 10. Note: Regarding Casey leaving Christianity, see p.37 (also Habermas, OtR, 185, refers to Maurice Casey as an agnostic and non-Christian).
15 Habermas, OtR:E, 201. Note: Habermas provides a little more information than what is mentioned here, and Habermas notes that “Bruce presents a somewhat similar list of facts.”
16 Habermas, OtR:E, 195.
17 Barnett, JLH, 42.
18 For Barnett’s full list, go to: Barnett, JLH, 57-58. Information displayed in video was not a direct quote from Barnett (also, Bible quotes displayed, in this case, were from NIV).
19 Ehrman, DJE?, 113.
20 Ehrman, DJE?, 125.
21 Both quotes are from Ehrman, DJE?, 75.
Katherine’s Sources for Paraphrased Material
Ignatius
• Ehrman, DJE?, 76, 78, 80.
• Bieler, L.G. “St. Ignatius of Antioch.” Encyclopedia Britannica, November 5, 2025. www.britannica.com.
1 Clement
• Ehrman, DJEt?, 80-81.
Pliny the Younger
• Evans, “JNCS,” 454, 458-459.
• Habermas, OtR, 205.
Tacitus
• Evans, “JNCS," 443, 464, 466.
• Habermas, OtR:E, 191. Habermas references Hadas’s “Introduction.”
• Evans quotes Meier’s A Marginal Jew in Evans, “JNCS,” 465.
Josephus
• Fernando Bermejo-Rubio, “Was the Hypothetical Vorlage of the Testimonium Flavianum a ‘Neutral’ Text? Challenging the Common Wisdom on Antiquitates Judaicae 18.63-64,” Journal for the Study of Judaism 45, no. 3 (2014): 336, 326-327, 339.
• Habermas, OtR:E, 195.
• T. C. Schmidt, Josephus and Jesus: New Evidence for the One Called Christ (Oxford University Press, 2025), 1-2; John P. Meier, “Jesus in Josephus: A Modest Proposal,” The Catholic Biblical Quarterly 52, no. 1 (1990): 81.
Paul’s Letters
• Barnett, JLH, 39-42.
• Regarding Barnett’s 3 points about Paul’s letters, see Barnett, JLH, 41-42. For part of Barnett’s point about manuscripts, Barnett references J. C. Beker.
• Regarding Paul’s first letter, Barnett dates it to ~AD 50 (to Thessalonians), if not earlier (i.e., if Galatians pre-dates Thessalonians), see Barnett, JLH, 41.
Ehrman’s 2 points:
• Ehrman, DJE?, 108-110, 119, 123-125.
• Note about Ehrman, DJE?, 109-113. Ehrman believes “Peter was Jesus’s most intimate companion” (110), even though I’ve heard from so many that this place belongs to John and there is biblical evidence for John. Regardless, I agree with Ehrman that Peter was at least in the top three disciples. I agree with Ehrman that James and Jesus were biological brothers, but I see it as a half-brother relationship, while Ehrman apparently denies Jesus’s virgin birth.
• Craig S. Keener, Galatians A Commentary,_ Ebook (Baker Academic, 2019), 62.
Dylan Cardiff’s Sources
Daniel McClellan
One of my biggest sources. I probably used information from him throughout my answers. Any time I am talking about Old Testament scholarship and the meaning of Hebrew or Greek words in the original texts, Adonai, monotheism, etc, that all comes from McClellan.
Bart Ehrman
One of my biggest sources. I probably used information from him throughout my answers. When I am talking about the legendary development and the chronological order of Mark, Matthew, Luke, John, etc, Joseph of Arimathea, that is mostly from Ehrman.
Dale Allison
The notion that the Pre-Pauline creed given in 1 Corinthians 15:3-8 might not be as early as other Christian scholars suppose (most think it is AD 35-38, Allison concedes it could easily be as late as AD 40, and we don't have a reliable way to pin the date down further than that).
Others
My opinions are informed and influenced by Matt Dillahunty, Aron Ra, and many others.
Disclaimer
I [Dylan] am very casually learning about these topics so I hope I did not misrepresent the positions taken by each of my sources.
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