D&C 132 - Joseph Smith's Polygamy "Revelation" | Ep. 1676 | LDS Discussions Ep. 25

Описание: Today’s episode continues the discussion on Polygamy with the (in)famous revelation still canonized in Mormon/LDS scripture as Section 132 of the Doctrine & Covenants. Mike sets up the historical & personal context of the timing of this revelation and the problematic ideas presented in it as coming from God including how God views women, redefining adultery and other moral issues, and the various rules and justifications given by God to practice polygamy.

Mike goes on to show that Joseph admits himself that polygamy is something he wanted, and despite being the receiver of the various specific rules defined by God, he nevertheless proceeds to break every one of them.

Finally, Mike goes over the many apologetics around this section of the Doctrine & Covenants and the problems with most of the arguments attempting to justify the revelation, Joseph’s polygamy, and the resulting polygamy among many of the branches of Mormonism, some continuing to this day.

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00:00:00 Introduction
00:14:40 A quick recap of how D&C 132 was produced
00:18:00 A few problems off the bat with D&C 132
00:28:20 The very first D&C 132 contradicts the Book of Mormon
00:30:30 D&C 132 seeks to turn morality upside down with polygamy
00:32:10 D&C 132 misrepresents the Bible to justify Joseph’s polygamy
00:42:05 Joseph creates a problem to sell you a solution
00:45:30 Joseph concedes that it was Joseph himself that wanted polygamy
00:51:20 Joseph redefines adultery in D&C 132
00:53:00 Reflections on the inclusion of the word “concubine”
00:56:30 Every polyandrous marriage violates D&C 132:41
01:05:15 Wives (and children) of unfaithful men will be “given to another”
01:16:10 Joseph Fielding Smith expands on D&C 132
01:20:40 Joseph can use discernment to “give” women to other men
01:22:30 God endorses literally anything Joseph Smith decides to do
01:28:30 God rescinds whatever offer Joseph Smith made to Emma
01:31:40 God commands Emma to accept the women “given to” joseph
01:37:50 Emma must stick with Joseph Smith or else be destroyed
01:43:25 God grants Emma a Quid Pro Quo to forgive Joseph Smith
01:47:40 God invoking very similar language to Joseph’s own from 1841
01:49:40 God forbids property to be given to Emma
01:53:50 God writes Joseph Smith a blank check
01:56:20 The Law of Sarah and getting specific about polygamy
02:00:10 Women that Joseph Smith had married before D&C 132
02:08:25 Women are given to men to make babies
02:12:00 Women must accept polygamy or be destroyed
02:12:50 God revokes the Law of Sarah just four verses after creating it
02:24:45 God (through Joseph) leaves the door open for more revelation
02:26:35 Ways that Joseph Smith violates his own revelation
02:31:30 Apologetics on D&C 132: :God wasn’t specific enough
02:34:45 God tells us that D&C 132 is clear and from a “house of order”
02:35:00 More very clear rules from God in D&C 132
02:36:50 Joseph Smith: The Reluctant Polygamist
02:42:15 The revelation almost feels like two revelations in one
02:44:00 What the church cites from D&C 132 in the 2021 CFM manual
02:48:30 D&C 132 is still the doctrine of the church
02:52:00 Dallin Oaks jokes about a woman worrying about eternal polygamy
02:56:20 Conclusion on D&C 132

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