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AI Agents, Identity & Zero Standing Privilege | Ophir Stein (Apono) | Cyber Mettle Podcast S1E13

Автор: The Cyber Mettle Podcast with Alyson & Omar

Загружено: 2026-02-24

Просмотров: 32

Описание: AI agents are moving at machine speed. Security teams are overloaded. How do you protect identity and access in a world that won’t slow down?

In this episode of The Cyber Mettle Podcast, Omar Sangurima and Alyson Laderman sit down with Ofir Stein, CTO and Co-Founder of Apono, to unpack how identity and access management must evolve in the age of AI agents.

From cloud transformation lessons to dynamic access controls, Ophir explains:

Why AI adoption is fundamentally different from the cloud shift

The growing risk of non-deterministic AI agents

How prompt injection mirrors social engineering

What “zero standing privilege” really means

vWhy 100% security doesn’t exist — and what to do instead

How to reduce friction between security and productivity

Practical advice for enterprises and small businesses adopting AI tools

If your organization is struggling with AI governance, privilege access management (PAM), or balancing speed with security, this conversation is essential.

🔎 Key Topics Covered / CHAPTERS:

00:00 – Introduction & disclaimer
01:10 – Ofir’s background: From Israeli Air Force infrastructure to Apono
03:25 – How AI adoption differs from the cloud transformation
05:56 – Human vs. non-human identities
07:00 – Why AI agents are different (non-deterministic decisions at machine speed)
08:44 – Zero standing privilege explained
11:22 – The friction between security and productivity
14:37 – Expanding identity controls into AI agents
19:12 – Moving from identity to intent-based enforcement
23:24 – Prompt injection vs. social engineering
27:27 – Agent “blast radius” and risk framing
31:24 – Why security teams push back (overload is real)
35:56 – You can’t block AI — it’s already happening
37:38 – Advice for small businesses navigating AI trust
38:33 – Standards, protocols, and optimism for the future

🎙 About Our Guest

Ofir Stein is the CTO and Co-Founder of Apono, a modern access security platform focused on dynamic privilege access and risk-based identity management. With over 20 years in infrastructure and security, Ophir has witnessed the evolution from on-prem systems to cloud-native environments and now to AI-driven architectures.

🔐 About The Cyber Mettle Podcast

Hosted by cybersecurity leader Omar Sangurima and attorney Alyson Laderman, The Cyber Mettle Podcast explores the intersection of cybersecurity, business resilience, law, and emerging technology.

We are not your lawyer or your cybersecurity provider, but we are here to help you think critically about resilience in a rapidly changing digital world.

📌 Connect with Apono

Apono: https://www.apono.io/
Ofir Stein:   / ofir-stein  

Keywords:

AI agents security
Identity and access management
Zero standing privilege
Privilege access management (PAM)
Prompt injection security
AI governance for enterprises
Dynamic access controls
Agentic AI risk
Non-deterministic AI
Cloud security evolution
Cybersecurity podcast 2026
Apono security platform

#Cybersecurity
#AI
#AIAgents
#IdentityManagement
#ZeroTrust
#PrivilegeAccess
#CyberMettle
#SecurityLeadership
#CloudSecurity
#TechLeadership

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