Ethereum’s Staking Endgame

Описание: Hasu and Jon bring on Ansgar and Caspar from the Ethereum Foundation to discuss the ETH staking endgame.

Ansgar and Caspar recently published two controversial research posts which included a proposal to change Ethereum’s issuance curve. They are concerned that the current ETH staking economics could lead to nearly 100% of ETH being staked, with much of that in LSTs. They propose reducing issuance and targeting a lower stake rate.

We go deep in this episode on PoS economics, liquid staking, restaking, economic security, centralization concerns, and much more.
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Intro
(00:25) Possible Changes to ETH Staking?
(00:49) Overview of Current ETH Staking
(16:32) LSTs & Staking Rate Increasing
(21:36) Nominal vs Real Yield
(23:22) Tax Implications of Staking
(27:57) Staking Demand & External Revenue
(35:33) Stake Ratio Targeting
(36:21) Is 100% Staking Bad?
(40:05) Can ETH LSTs be Money?
(55:24) Would Any Changes Make a Difference?
(01:04:05) Stake Targeting
(01:10:20) Will Targeting Centralize Validators?
(01:22:53) Fiat Money Parallels
(01:25:16) MEV & Restaking Revenue
(01:30:52) Electra Proposal to Change Issuance
(01:46:01) Security Budget & Economic Security
(01:53:40) Validator Set Quality
(01:55:10) Incentives to Maximize Validator Decentralization
(02:19:00) PoS vs PoW Political Complexity
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Hasu -   / hasufl  
Jon Charbonneau -   / jon_charb  
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Ansgar -   / adietrichs  
Caspar -   / casparschwa  
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Referenced Materials:
Endgame Staking Economics: A Case for Targeting - https://ethresear.ch/t/endgame-stakin...
Electra: Issuance Curve Adjustment Proposal - https://ethereum-magicians.org/t/elec...
Properties of issuance level: consensus incentives and variability across potential reward curves - https://ethresear.ch/t/properties-of-...
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