Former Libertarian Begs Sam To Take Ayn Rand Seriously

Описание: A former objectivist-libertarian called in to discuss how he thinks the left would do better to combat libertarianism. He believed that to break down libertarian ideology you really have to study Ayn Rand. He claimed that Rand hated libertarians and accused them of plagiarizing her work. Sam isn't really buying it.

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Caller: I’m a former objectivist libertarian-leaning person. I’ve held these views for maybe the past 10 years. and it's just re and it's recently this year that I pretty much kind of crossed over into the leftist field. and as someone with these ideas that the one thing that became very common with debates that I told because what drew me to your show was the show with the yarn brook. Which was really wasn't important and interesting to me because of jean-boat. again was the what do you call the leader of the android institute whatever I think they like to circle jerk around basically. And when I watched it it's where the contradictions that I held or not really contradictions but more of I noticed the arguments that y'all made against them in the circles the circle talking that they do. And I feel like I can be maybe an explanation maybe explain these reasons why they believe what they think. Because in my personal view I argue that libertarianism and of itself was highly influenced by like Ayn Rand and objectivism. And I think a lot more than people like to think that they do and I think one of the biggest things that leftists and progressives in general do is ignore her. and say that she's not worth speaking about and I argue 100 that that's a fatal flaw and we never should have done that. I believe that the left should take her seriously. Because I truly believe that if we can understand her beliefs 100 percent that we can argue against libertarian think points. Because they don't realize that the arguments that they're making can be pulled straight out of the fountainhead. Straight out of that less shrug. No one only needs to read like the words she said to knows like where they got like the right gets these ideas from. Like parasites or you know personal liberty personal responsibilities. Like where they pull this nonsense from. Because we have to understand that Ayn Rand when she defined her philosophy objectivism she pretty much tried to re-write philosophy. And basically, justify capitalism and giving it that of that philosophical foundation. And we can throw around all the time he's like oh well she's not it's like she's nonsense.
Sam: My experience of a lot of libertarians is that they embrace Ayn Rand.
Caller: I mean maybe some of them don't to an extent. To an extent. And I will and this is where I will put that line so it's like when I saw the title calling Yaron Brook libertarian and objectivist view it makes like again I’m still kind of have the after-effects of having these views for so long that like calling them libertarian still makes me cringe. Because in rand's words she would have caught like completely one-on-ones probably a 30-minute tangent saying how she's not a libertarian. She hates libertarians. And she called them anarchists basically. So it's like I think the big mistake we make is comparing libertarianism and objectivism as the same thing. Because they're foundational to objectivists they're not. They're completely two different ideologies. To Ayn Rand herself, she considered libertarians to be complete plagiarists of her work. Where do you think the non-aggression principle became popularized from? was through ayn rand. Like, read Atlas Shrugged when she's pretty much at the end of John Galt's speech she said I swear by my life and my love of it that I’ll never live for the sake of another man nor ask another to live for mine. That is the philosophical moral basis for their entire ethics. It is that personal responsibility. So when they say personal responsibility their meaning on the outright that rights come are inalienable that right then and of themselves are given through the government. Not through the fact that you are born.