Israel or America? A Jewish Family’s Dilemma After Oct 7 | Unholy Podcast

Описание: Listeners Therapy returns for a second session on Unholy. Psychotherapist Dr Orna Guralnik joins Yonit Levi and Jonathan Freedland to meet Lee and Marion — an American-Israeli couple living in New York with two young children, struggling with a question facing many Jewish families today: where should we raise our children — in Israel or in the United States?

They have lived in Israel, California, and New York. Their families are split between continents. Since October 7, the dilemma has become heavier and harder to avoid. Israel offers belonging, language, and cultural intimacy — but also political tension, rising extremism, and physical danger. America offers stability and opportunity — but distance from family, and a different kind of Jewish identity.

What emerges is not a conflict between partners, but a conflict within each of them: loyalty and fear, attachment and doubt, safety and meaning. They speak about patriotism and protest, antisemitism and community, queerness and security, and the difference between living in a country and choosing a country.

With Dr Guralnik’s guidance, the conversation becomes less about reaching a decision and more about learning how to live with complexity — how to hold opposing truths without turning one another into enemies.

A deeply personal conversation about identity, parenting, and belonging — and about the arguments many Jews now carry not with others, but within themselves.

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00:00 – Introducing Listeners Therapy
01:15 – Meet Lee and Marion
03:40 – Why location became urgent after having children
06:10 – Why Israel feels like home
09:20 – Why Israel feels frightening
12:30 – Politics, safety, and education
15:50 – Patriotism vs moral discomfort
18:40 – Living in America as Jews after Oct 7
22:30 – Antisemitism and community
26:00 – Dr Orna Guralnik’s reflections
30:10 – Conflict within, not between
33:40 – What this dilemma represents for Jewish families
36:30 – Closing thoughts