Nyrola Elimä & Ben Mauk: The Persecution of the Uyghurs in China and Beyond

Описание: In this episode of Not to Forgive, but to Understand, Sabah Carrim speaks with Ben Mauk and Nyrola Elimä about their investigation published in The New York Times. The article, titled “The Long Road from Xinjiang” in print and “He Made a Daring Escape From China. Then His Real Troubles Began” online, explores the journey of Hasan Imam, a Uyghur refugee fleeing repression in Xinjiang. The discussion delves into Hasan's story and the broader implications of China's transnational oppression. Ben and Nyrola share insights from their years-long investigation, highlighting the extreme challenges Uyghurs face both within China and beyond its borders.

00:00:00 - 00:01:09 Introduction of Guests
00:01:09 - 00:01:18 Article Overview
00:05:17 - 00:13:12 What was involved in the course of this risky and delicate investigation?
00:13:12 - 00:20:54 Living conditions of the Uyghurs in China
00:20:54 - 00:27:53 Fear and dread of the Chinese government
00:27:53 - 00:33:47 Why was the Xinjiang exempted from the rule?
00:33:47 - 00:39:51 Why are the Uyghurs targeted by the Chinese government?
00:39:51 - 00:48:51 They don't like us. They really don't like us.
00:48:51 - 00:58:01 What is at stake for Turkey?
00:58:01 - 01:02:57 What do the Uyghurs go through after fleeing China?
01:02:57 - 01:07:25 What is the way forward?
01:07:25 - Closing remark