Chinese AI – They're Just Like Us? With Beijing-Based Concordia AI CEO Brian Tse

Описание: Nathan interviews Brian Tse, founder and CEO of Concordia AI, about China's approach to AI development, safety and governance. They discuss China’s pragmatic vision emphasizing AI integration into the economy, the country’s multiple AI hubs, regulations requiring pre-deployment testing and AI content labelling, and areas where China's approach overlaps with the U.S. The conversation covers chips and export controls, Huawei's rise, DeepSeek's peer-reviewed article on Nature, open-weights, Singapore's role as a bridge, and pathways for cooperation like shared red lines, risk management frameworks, and emergency preparedness protocols. They also touch on embodied AI and humanoid robots, public optimism, and real labor anxieties.

Op-Ed in Time “ China Is Taking AI Safety Seriously. So Must the U.S. ” by Brian Tse: https://time.com/7308857/china-isnt-i...

State of AI Safety in China (2025) report, following versions in 2023 and 2024: https://aisafetychina.substack.com/p/...

Frontier AI Risk Management Framework, co-authored by Shanghai AI Lab and Concordia AI, China's first comprehensive framework for managing severe risks from frontier general-purpose AI:
https://aisafetychina.substack.com/p/...

Frontier AI Risk Monitoring Platform (preview), including biological risk refusal evaluations of DeepSeek’s models mentioned during the conversation: https://airiskmonitor.net:18615/

State of AI Safety in Singapore report, the first comprehensive analysis of the space: https://aisafetychina.substack.com/p/...

Concordia AI Fall 2025 Hiring Announcement: https://aisafetychina.substack.com/p/...


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CHAPTERS:
(00:00) About the Episode
(06:04) Introducing Concordia AI
(12:27) Sketching China's AI Landscape
(17:03) Chinese AI Culture and Vision (Part 1)
(22:10) Sponsors: AssemblyAI
(25:35) Chinese AI Culture and Vision (Part 2)
(29:23) China's 'AI Plus' Blueprint (Part 1)
(38:10) Sponsors: Linear | AGNTCY | Shopify
(42:40) China's 'AI Plus' Blueprint (Part 2)
(42:59) Research Collaboration and Language
(50:32) AI Safety as National Priority
(01:01:44) Local AI Governance Initiatives
(01:13:29) AI Deployment Regulation Process
(01:26:38) Managing Frontier AI Risks
(01:42:41) US-China Distrust and Chips
(01:58:19) Seeking a Stable Equilibrium
(02:12:27) International Collaboration and Action
(02:22:49) Embodied AI Safety Research
(02:35:11) Humanoids and Economic Anxiety
(02:47:46) Outro