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Code 2 Culture, Ep 3: Golden Paths vs Developer Freedom: Can We Both?

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Описание: 🎙️ Code to Culture: Platform Engineering Unpacked for Enterprises — Episode 3: Golden Paths vs Developer Freedom

What happens when developers don’t want to follow the “Golden Path”?
What if they value freedom over consistency? And what if the tools we select in our internal developer platforms aren’t what developers want?

In this episode of Code to Culture, host Saim Safdar and co-host Courtney Nickerson (Head of Community at Nirmata and Kyverno Project) sit down with Kat Morris, Product Manager at Syntasso, and Jouke Visser, Head of Frontend Platforms Initiative, to unpack one of the most debated topics in Platform Engineering today, balancing standardization with developer autonomy.

💡 We explore:
What if devs don’t want to “do” Platform Engineering?
How do we resolve conflicts between Golden Paths and developer preferences?
How can we convince management to fund PE, just a few years after the DevOps push?
What does it take to turn developers into fans of platform teams?
Who owns the decision when it comes to building these paths, and who gets to veto them?

Whether you’re a platform engineer, team lead, or product manager, this episode dives into the human side of platform building culture, collaboration, and the fine line between empowerment and enforcement.

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▬▬▬▬▬▬ ⏱️ Chapters ⏱️ ▬▬▬▬▬▬
0:00 Intro
0:15 Agenda
0:53 Courtney returns for Episode 3
1:16 Reminder: Episodes 1 & 2 are already live
1:57 Jouke Visser joins the show
2:28 Kat Morris joins from Syntasso
3:28 Why Golden Paths?
4:01 Defining the “Golden Path” – what is it, really?
5:22 Jouke’s perspective from the frontend world
5:34 Why standardization is important, but risky
7:08 When Golden Paths become mandatory
7:26 The trade-offs between developer happiness & organizational safety
9:20 Why do golden paths have to differ by org size & context
12:00 Practical starting point
14:00 Common platform failure: building things teams won’t adopt
17:23 Modernizing legacy stacks and making migrations smoother
18:34 Selling the value: developer productivity + business outcomes
19:30 Are golden paths different for startups vs enterprises?
23:20 Jouke’s frontend perspective
25:10 The central tension: consistency vs accelerated innovation
26:20 Roadmap suggestions for adopting golden paths
30:06 Lessons learned from past CI/CD experiences
32:00 IDP's capabilities for Cross-Team collaboration
34:30 Golden bricks vs Golden Path
35:30 Filling gaps in IDP's dev story?
36:34 Motivation behind Frontend platforms
45:00 Rapid Fire
45:40 How much voice devs have in Golden Paths are designed?
46:20 Who can veto IDP's capabilities?
48:30 Transparency: who can build/participate in IDP
51:50 Frontend Platform where are we heading
53:30 What's next Syntasso is building for platform teams
55:27 Cortney's Key takeaways
57:15 Big thanks to our panelists
58:15 Outro

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