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trinities 396 - Debate: Tuggy vs. White - John 1 is not Trinitarian - Part 3

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Загружено: 2025-11-22

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Описание: https://trinities.org/blog/podcast-39...
This final installment includes the cross-examination times, audience Q & A, and our closing statements, of course with my commentary.

The cross-examination times are revealing. As we heard in part two, I presented Dr. White with an argument that his interpretation of John 1 implies that there are at least two gods and so should be rejected. In the cross-examination here, I ask which premise he rejects and why, and he says that he rejects this one, because it assumes unitarianism, or that God can be only one Person:

4. To have the divine essence is to be a god. (true by the definition of “divine essence”)

But as I explain in this episode, that premise doesn’t assume unitarianism at all, and in fact some trinitarians agree with it, holding that the Father is a god, the Son is a god, and the Spirit is a god, but also that they’re the same god. Really, White’s favorite “assuming unitarianism” argument is just an irrelevant ad hominem.

Also, the lexicons exchange in my cross-ex time has to be heard to be believed.

I wrap this series up by explaining which side won this debate and why.

If you want to hear more about these pre-trinitarian theologies check out podcasts 381 and 384 linked below.

Links for this episode @ https://trinities.org/blog/podcast-39...

James White and fans take note: here are six places in which I obviously do not merely assume that God can only be one Person: podcast 189 – The unfinished business of the Reformation, book chapter: “The Unfinished Business of the Reformation,” podcast 334 – “Who do you say I am?”, opening statement here: podcast 377 – Debate: Is Jesus Yahweh? White vs. Tuggy – Part 1, my opening statement in this debate book, podcast 372 – Book Session Identity Crisis – Part 1
podcast 384 – Mainstream Christian Theologies in the Late 100s – Early 200s and Early Trinitarian “Fool’s Gold”
podcast 383 – New Zealand Conference Church History Q and A with Sean Finnegan and Dale Tuggy – Part 2
podcast 382 – New Zealand Conference Church History Q and A with Sean Finnegan and Dale Tuggy – Part 1
Transfigured podcast interview on the debate book
podcast 381 – Mainstream Christian Theologies in the year 240: What Trinitarian Apologists Don’t Know
This week’s thinking music is “Gemini Instrumental” by Pipe Choir.

This week’s thinking music is “Gemini Instrumental” by Pipe Choir.
https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Pi...

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