The Blueprint for System Change | Ash Sarkar Meets Extinction Rebellion Founder Roger Hallam

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This week on Downstream, Ash Sarkar is joined by one of the most controversial political figures on the Left: Roger Hallam. Whether you like or loathe his tactics, it’s hard to deny the disruptive impact he has had through the activist organisations he has led; Extinction Rebellion and Just Stop Oil.

He joins us fresh from his latest stint in a prison cell, where he wrote a treatise for Your Party called ‘Grasping the Enormity of the Moment’. It’s a blueprint for a radical change, in which he sets out his vision for an emancipated future, and strategies for how to get there. Does Jeremy Corbyn and Zarah Sultana’s party still have potential? What is the point of sending activists to prison? And what role will Zoom calls play in the coming revolution?

00:00 Intro
02:40 Your Party’s Moment
05:18 The Revolutionary Potential of Zoom Calls
11:18 Creating Networks Through Door Knocking
14:50 Drawing Inspiration From the Belgian Workers’ Party
17:58 What Motivates People: Emotion Versus Reason
26:09 The Problem With the Censorious Left
34:11 What’s the Point of Political Prisoners?
44:09 The Demographics of JSO and XR
52:47 On Sortition
1:04:42 Building Relationships of Solidarity
1:11:40 Zack Polanski and the Green Party
1:14:22 Talking, Listening, Action

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