Oncology, Etc. – Rediscovering the Joy in Medicine with Dr. Deborah Schrag (Part 1)

Описание: In part one of a two-part conversation, Drs. Patrick Loehrer and David Johnson sit down with Dr. Deborah Schrag to discuss her roles as a leader, researcher, oncologist and public health expert. The current Chair of the Department of Medicine at Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center in New York, Dr. Schrag discusses the joy and passion she has found throughout her career, and more.


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Dr. Pat Loehrer: I'm Pat Loehrer. I'm the Director of the Center of Global Oncology and Health Equity at Indiana University.


Dr. David Johnson: Yes. And hello, I'm David Johnson. I'm at UT Southwestern in Dallas, Texas.


Dr. Pat Loehrer: And welcome to another version of Oncology, Etc.


Dr. David Johnson: Yeah, great guest today, before we get started with our guests, though, Pat, what are you reading these days? What can you recommend to me?


Dr. Pat Loehrer: Well, I'm reading Jamie Raskin's book, which is about his son and about the insurrection. It's really a wonderful read so far, particularly I think about the family nature and how much he deeply respected his son who unfortunately committed suicide.


Dr. David Johnson: Right before one of the impeachment trials as I recall, right?


Dr. Pat Loehrer: It was right before the January 6 insurrection.


Dr. David Johnson: Yeah, terrible situation. I have a book I've been meaning to recommend for a while. It's one that I've given to all the chief residents I've worked with over the last several years. And today's guests made me think about this book. It's entitled, Osler: Inspirations from a Great Physician. It's written by Charles Bryan, who's the former Chair of Medicine at the University of South Carolina in Columbia.


Dr. Pat Loehrer: You trained with Osler, didn't you?


Dr. David Johnson: I was a couple of years behind him. He was my senior resident. For anyone who's an Oslerphile, it's a great book to have. But even if you're not, it's got some wonderful lessons to be learned about how to interact with one's colleagues, and a lot of information about leadership, which is why it made me think of today's guest, Dr. Deborah Schrag who we're really excited to welcome to Oncology, Etc.


Dr. Schrag is the Chairman of the Department of Medicine at Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center in New York. She's a highly accomplished healthcare leader, clinician-researcher, and expert in public health and population science.


Deborah received her medical degree from Columbia University and completed her residency in internal medicine at Brigham and Women's. She obtained her medical oncology training at Dana-Farber in Boston and also received an MPH degree from the Harvard School of Public Health.


After a brief stint on the faculty at DFCI and Brigham and Women's, she joined the division of gastrointestinal Oncology at Memorial Sloan Kettering, where she was an associate member and Associate Professor of Public Health and Medicine.


In 2007, I believe it was, she returned to Dana-Farber and Brigham, where she continued her work focused on improving the delivery, quality, and effectiveness of cancer care. While there, she served as chief of the Division of Population Sciences until this past year when she returned to Memorial to chair the Department of Medicine.


I also think she's the first woman to hold this position, but we'll learn about that momentarily. Deb is internationally recognized as a pioneer for her work engaging patients in reporting outcomes as a way to improve care.


She has led pragmatic trials using informatics strategies to optimize patient and clinician wellbeing, efficiency and quality, and equity of care. In short, she's a true superstar, leading the department, the major department, in one of the world's foremost Cancer Institutes.


Deb, welcome to Oncology, Etc. Thank you so much for accepting our invitation. This is a relatively new oncology podcast, but already, we're known for our incisive, deeply penetrating questions. So, I have a question for you to start off. Do you have any carpentry skills?


Dr. Deborah Schrag: Absolutely none whatsoever, Dave. None.


Dr. David Johnson: I'm disappointed. It's my understanding that Schrag is German for cross or a slant and people who build cross-legged tables. So, I was hoping, my house was destroyed recently, and I'm looking for replacement furniture, and I was hoping you might be able to help me.


Dr. Deborah Schrag: I apologize. But I'm not going to be able to help. The name, you’re correct, though, David, is a German name. So, my family does hail from Germany and they made malt, which is the major ingredient in beer. I'm not sure where the name comes from. But they ran malt factories and shipped malt all over to all the beer, before there were craft beer distilleries, that's what they did.


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