What You Were NEVER Taught About Lincoln | Doris Kearns Goodwin

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Historian and bestselling author Doris Kearns Goodwin joins Ryan to explore why Lincoln stands above the rest, how ambition can be twisted toward selfishness or greatness, and how moments of pain and principle shape true leaders. Ryan and Doris dive into the pressures of writing about legendary figures, Doris’s years working for LBJ, and what it takes to bring history to life for future generations.

Doris Kearns Goodwin is a Pulitzer Prize–winning presidential historian and bestselling author. Her latest #1 New York Times bestseller, An Unfinished Love Story: A Personal History of the 1960s, is being adapted into a feature film, while her earlier works, Team of Rivals, The Bully Pulpit, and No Ordinary Time, have won some of the nation’s highest literary honors and inspired leaders worldwide. She has served as a White House Fellow to President Lyndon Johnson, produced acclaimed docuseries for the HISTORY Channel, and earned countless awards for her contributions to history and leadership.

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In this Episode:

00:00:00-00:01:16 Intro
00:02:14-00:05:02 Doris Kearns Goodwin's Team of Rivals Epigraph
00:05:03-00:09:25 Lincoln's Peculiar Ambition vs. Ambition for the Common Good
00:09:25-00:12:38 Lincoln’s Pragmatic Sense of Duty & Morals in Politics
00:12:38-00:15:17 Confidence and Humility: Admitting You Don’t Know and Learning
00:15:17-00:23:54 Doris Kearns Goodwin’s Biography Writing Process and Tips
00:23:55-00:29:22 The Best Time of Day to Write and Boost Productivity
00:29:22-00:34:05 How History Can Reassure or Create Dread
00:34:05-00:35:38 Two Kinds of Success in the World: Lessons from History
00:35:38-00:38:37 Archetypes of Presidents and Leadership Patterns
00:44:58-00:48:03 Founding Myth of Stoicism and Its Relevance Today
00:48:07-00:51:53 How to Teach History to Kids: Practical Tips
00:52:57-01:02:18 End Starting a New Book: What the Writing Process Feels Like