"You Lied" — Joe Confronts Jacob LIVE 🔴

Описание: Joe Heschmeyer recently said Jacob seemed dishonest during their debate — even claiming he lied to the audience. In this livestream, Jacob responds directly, live and unfiltered, as the two face each other once again.

Link to original debate:    • DEBATE: The Great Apostasy | Joe Heschmeye...  

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0:00:00 Introduction
0:01:09 Audio issues
0:03:37 “Was I dishonest?”
0:04:30 Recap of the debate
0:05:09 Jacob’s opening
0:05:40 What LDS mean by “Great Apostasy”
0:08:43 LDS sources: corruption → priesthood/authority withdrawn
0:14:20 Why Jacob targeted the papacy
0:15:35 “Papacy is the only game in town?”
0:16:06 Burden of proof + argument-map slide
0:17:39 Schism vs apostasy (definitions)
0:18:06 Centralized vs equalized authority models
0:23:51 If Catholicism is false, does that imply apostasy?
0:25:24 “Church” = body of believers vs governing institution
0:29:42 Invisible church vs institutional church
0:31:11 Is the pope an apostle? (terms + authority)
0:32:04 Do apostles get replaced? (Acts 12 / Judas)
0:36:48 Apostasy: event vs gradual drift
0:39:56 Hegesippus/early heresy + Rome’s role
0:47:50 Tightening the argument (revelation vs “divinely guided head”)
0:53:56 Daniel 2 “stone” prophecy + early fathers
1:02:48 Final clarification before Q&A
1:03:10 Super chats begin
1:16:35 Super chat: hidden Christians / authority-loss questions
1:23:38 Early church theology: Trinity language discussion
1:30:57 Why would God allow apostasy?
1:40:52 Super chat speed-run
1:42:43 “Great and abominable church” (1 Nephi 13)
1:44:42 1st-century Christianity vs LDS doctrines
2:02:37 LDS succession after Joseph Smith (Brigham Young / Twelve)
2:05:26 Councils vs apostolic authority
2:11:15 Holy Spirit promises + need for top-down authority
2:13:58 Councils “equals” problem
2:22:30 Meta: making the argument explicit / bridging premises
2:27:46 Wrap-up begins
2:28:45 Final thanks + sign-off

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