Dejermy

Описание: In this wide-ranging discussion, I am joined by two of Britain’s most experienced and independent voices on the Ukraine war and European security: Mary Dejevsky, former Moscow correspondent for The Times and long-time foreign affairs commentator, and Commodore Steve Jermy RN (Rtd), a decorated naval officer with combat experience dating back to the Falklands War and the author of Strategy for Action.

Prompted by Mary’s powerful Substack essay J’Accuse – Boris Johnson, we examine Boris Johnson’s role in the early phase of the war, the collapse of the April 2022 Istanbul talks, the broader strategic failures of Western policy, the gap between political narrative and military reality, and what a realistic security architecture for Europe might look like once the fighting ends. We also discuss Steve’s support for a petition calling for a pause in UK military aid and a proper public debate (and possible referendum) on Britain’s involvement.

In this conversation we discuss:
Mary Dejevsky’s case for holding Boris Johnson to account after the war
The Istanbul negotiations of April 2022 and why the draft agreement collapsed
Johnson’s Churchillian framing of Zelensky and the early Western response
Military analysis of Russia’s initial operation and the West’s strategic misjudgements
The role of other key figures (Liz Truss, Ben Wallace, Tony Radakin)
Why the West continues to rely on one-sided information and propaganda
Russia’s actual security objectives versus the “restore the empire” narrative
Neutrality for Ukraine and the case for reforming or replacing NATO
A possible future European security architecture centred on the OSCE
The petition to pause UK support and open a national debate on aid spending
What a post-war reckoning in Britain might look like

Chapters:00:00 – Introduction
01:06 – Mary on her Substack article and Boris Johnson’s role
04:47 – Ian on Liz Truss, Ben Wallace and the early hard line
06:35 – Steve on military realities, the limited nature of the initial operation, and strategic blunders
09:48 – Johnson’s shift from dove to hawk and Western groupthink
11:40 – Media spin, one-sided reporting, and the failure to understand Russian motivations
15:10 – When the public starts to see through the narrative
19:57 – Competing views of Putin’s goals: security vs territorial expansion
22:12 – Russia’s minimal objectives and the difficulty of changing the Western consensus
24:13 – Signs of cracks in mainstream media coverage
26:42 – Emotional responses vs the requirements of diplomacy
28:00 – Future European security architecture, neutrality, and reforming NATO/OSCE
32:32 – How Russia sees its relationship with Europe
38:21 – America’s shifting priorities and Europe’s strategic position
45:30 – Learning from Russia rather than Ukraine, and the components of military power
47:15 – Mechanisms for accountability and a post-war reckoning
51:36 – The petition, public debate, and the risks of escalation
56:15 – Closing remarks

Links:

Mary Dejevsky’s Substack article – J’Accuse – Boris Johnson:
https://marydejevsky.substack.com/p/j...

Steve Jermy’s Substack article on the petition – Petition: Pause British Military Support for Ukraine:
https://stevejermy.substack.com/p/pet...

PLEASE CONSIDER SIGNING THE PETITION TO PAUSE UK AID TO UKRAINE AND HOLD A REFERENDUM

Official UK Parliament petition:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petiti...

Ian Proud / The Peacemonger:
Substack: https://thepeacemonger.substack.com/
YouTube:    / @ianproud  
X: https://x.com/proud_diplomat

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