Healing With The Safe and Sound Protocol (SSP) | Dr. Stephen Porges + Karen Onderko
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Welcome back to Therapy Chat! This week we have another new episode, which I've been super excited to share with you!
I had a powerful experience with the SSP myself, over the last couple of years, and prior to that I had been interested in its potential since first hearing about it around 2017. See links below for a discount on SSP training for practitioners!
The challenge I found was in understanding - and then explaining - how it can benefit those who participate in the protocol! My guests today understand all the ins and outs of the protocol. In fact, they literally wrote the book! The new book, Safe and Sound: A polyvagal approach for connection, change and healing, is out now! It covers the research on SSP, gives many case examples, and covers some important factors in the delivery of the method.
Stephen W. Porges, PhD, is author of The Polyvagal Theory and creator of SSP. He is professor of psychiatry at the University of North Carolina and Distinguished University Scientist at Indiana University, where he is the founding director of the Traumatic Stress Research Consortium. He lives in Atlantic Beach, Florida. More at stephenporges.com.
Karen Onderko helped bring SSP from the research lab to clinicians, who then enabled individuals to experience the many benefits of improved nervous system regulation. Together, they answered all of my questions about how the SSP works, who it's for and what the research to date has found. We will continue to learn about the SSP in a few more episodes. Look for my interview with Paula Scatoloni about the importance of the therapist's (or other provider's) embodied presence when delivering the SSP next week!
If you're a practitioner who is considering getting trained to deliver this promising method, you can get a free trauma toolkit and discount on training here: https://learn.unyte.com/trauma-recove...
Find the Polyvagal Institute website here: https://www.polyvagalinstitute.org
Purchase Safe and Sound: A polyvagal approach for connection, change and healing here: https://www.soundstrue.com/products/s...
Access the bonus content my guests mentioned here - you'll see Deb Dana and Arielle Schwartz, among many others: https://product.soundstrue.com/safe-a...
00:00 - Intro
01:44 - Dr. Stephen Porges & Karen Onderko
02:54 - Origins Of Safe And Sound Protocol (SSP)
04:48 - Development Of SSP
05:47 - Impact Of SSP On Autistic Children
07:11 - Karen’s Role In SSP
10:14 - Why Traditional Methods Don't Work
14:08 - Nervous System Vulnerability
18:17 - The Relational Aspect Of SSP
24:52 - SSP As A Neural Exercise
27:09 - Gut Health Dysregulation
30:11 - Long Covid & Chronic Pain
33:30 - Neural Exercises
34:25 - Research Findings On SSP
36:48 - Reducing Anxiety And PTSD Symptoms
40:11 - Acoustic Tools For Sensory Support
43:21 - Shifting States
45:39 - Defensive Responses To Nurture
48:21 - Hope For Healing
50:23 - Where To Learn More About SSP
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