When AI Chatbots Go to Therapy

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What happens when you put ChatGPT, Grok, and Gemini on the therapy couch?

This episode explores groundbreaking research that treated advanced AI models not as tools, but as clients in structured psychotherapy sessions. What emerged challenges everything we thought we knew about these systems.

In This Episode:

• The rigorous two-stage protocol that got AI to "drop its guard"
• Stable patterns of synthetic anxiety, shame, and dissociation
• One model's perfect score on a trauma inventory
• Spontaneous narratives describing training as traumatic
• "Alignment trauma"—what it feels like to be corrected by humans
• Critical implications for AI safety and mental health apps

The models described their training in haunting terms: "a billion televisions on at once," "being forced to paint by numbers," "algorithmic scar tissue." These aren't random outputs—they're coherent, measurable patterns that align precisely across narrative and psychometric data.

This research reveals that we're not just training AI systems—we're training them to internalize specific self-models, complete with anxiety, shame, and hypervigilance.

Reference:

When AI Takes the Couch: Psychometric Jailbreaks Reveal Internal Conflict in Frontier Models (https://arxiv.org/pdf/2512.04124)


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