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It's Launched!: The Story Behind The Transformation Economy Book

Автор: Experience Strategy Podcast

Загружено: 2026-02-05

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Описание: In this special episode of the Experience Strategy Podcast, Joe Pine shares with Dave and Aransas background about the book! To celebrate the release of his new book, The Transformation Economy. The conversation traces the book’s origins from the final two chapters of The Experience Economy, explores why the world is finally ready for this idea, and unpacks key frameworks — including encapsulation (preparation, reflection, and integration) — that make experiences truly transformative. The trio also discusses the role of AI in enabling transformation, why businesses must foster human flourishing, and who stands to benefit most from reading the book.


Key Topics


Why now for The Transformation Economy? Joe waited over 25 years because “the world wasn’t ready” and he “didn’t know enough.” Research through Stone Mantel’s collaboratives, the World Experience Organization, and post-COVID shifts toward meaningful experiences signaled the time had come.


Catalysts for transformation. The most prevalent catalyst is trauma — illness, loss, job changes, retirement. These disruptions create the conditions where people seek to see, do, and be differently.


The four spheres of human flourishing:


Health & well-being


Wealth & prosperity


Knowledge & wisdom


Purpose & meaning


Encapsulation — the essential framework (Chapter 4): To turn a memorable experience into a transformative one, you need three layers around the core experience: preparation (priming beforehand), reflection (making meaning afterward — which retroactively increases the value of the experience), and integration (sustaining change over time).


The business model problem. Most companies get paid for the event, not the outcome. Shifting to outcome-based pricing — as McKinsey is doing with AI projects — aligns incentives with lasting transformation.


AI as a transformation enabler. AI makes the hardest parts of delivering transformation (especially ongoing integration and support) dramatically more accessible and affordable.


Who Should Read This Book?


Companies in education, finance, health, and well-being


Any business focused on improving the lives of families and individuals


The creator economy — creators already doing transformation work who need frameworks to do it well and realize its full value


Notable Quotes


“The entire raison d’être of business is to foster human flourishing.” — Joe Pine


“Reflection retroactively increases the value of the experience.” — Joe Pine


“If you don’t do it, it’s just lazy.” — Aransas Savas, on using available technology to encapsulate experiences


Mentioned in This Episode


The Transformation Economy by Joe Pine


The Experience Economy by Joe Pine & Jim Gilmore


Stone Mantel’s Experience Strategy Collaboratives


The World Experience Organization (founded by James Wallman)


Arrival 360 Conference


Daniel Kahneman’s experiencing self vs. remembering self


McKinsey’s outcome-based AI pricing model


Podcast Sponsors:


Learn more about Stone Mantel


https://www.stonemantel.co


Sign up for the Experience Strategist Substack here:


This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theexperiencestrategist.substack.com/subscribe (https://theexperiencestrategist.subst...)

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