DNA and the Book of Mormon | Ep. 1594 | LDS Discussions Ep. 05

Описание: While God (in the D&C), Joseph Smith, and most Mormon Prophets certainly knew who the Lamanites were, DNA Science has put the modern Church in a precarious position. Today, The Church of Jesus-Christ of Latter-day Saints claims not to know anything about who and where the descendants of the Book of Mormon people are even though the record was explicitly preserved for them.
Join John, Mike, and Gerardo as they discuss how the LDS Church has responded to DNA Studies that show that Native Americans are the descendants of eastern Asian populations instead of Israelites.
LDS Discussions Essay on DNA and the Book of Mormon: https://www.ldsdiscussions.com/dna
Chapters:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:03:18 DNA and the Book of Mormon
00:09:55 Changing One Word That Changed Everything
00:10:35 The problem that DNA poses for the Book of Mormon
00:14:54 Carefully worded statements to diminish the scientific findings
00:21:28 Three examples of DNA in America before the Book of Mormon
00:27:31 The Retrofitting of larger populations in the Book of Mormon
00:28:30 There were no other civilizations in the Book of Mormon
00:33:48 Joseph Smith undermines apologetic efforts
00:35:43 God (through Joseph) undercuts other populations, too.
00:43:42 The problem that DNA created for the Book of Mormon
00:45:20 Apologetic responses to DNA and the Book of Mormon
00:47:38 Science on DNA is “tentative”
00:52:09 The evolution of DNA studies from Mormon Stories:
00:54:36 The Book of Mormon people were just a tiny group in a big world
00:57:33 There is NO textual evidence for other people
00:58:45 Understanding the basics of DNA - Mormon Stories Episode
00:59:18 Poisoning the well - DNA Can’t tell us about the Book of Mormon
01:02:00 Applying the essay’s logic outside of the Book of Mormon
01:05:15 Apologetics: Questioning the dating of the arrival of people to america. (As honest as the LDS church can be.)
01:06:50 This is why I stress the need for apologetics to be consistent!!
01:10:05 The church continues to muddy the waters
01:12:00 Scientists can’t rule it out
01:14:00 An example of a small migration to the Americas
01:17:00 We don’t know what to look for: The Founder Effect
01:17:47 Problems with the Founder Effect and the Book of Mormon
01:20:40 The problem is that we know exactly what to look for
01:22:33 Surprises in DNA testing mean we can’t know anything?
01:25:00 Mormon prophets, seers, and revelators weren’t confused
01:29:10 Church Manuals Weren’t Confused Until DNA Testing
01:30:20 Population Bottleneck
01:32:43 Problems with the population bottleneck
01:35:00 More on population bottlenecks
01:37:30 Genetic Drift of DNA and the Book of Mormon
01:38:05 Throwing Everything Against the Wall and Hoping Something Sticks
01:41:55 Cherry Picking Studies to Make the Book of Mormon Plausible
01:44:08 Jamie Hanis Handy Sums It Up So Well
01:45:00 The Church’s Conclusion, and One More From Jamie Hanis Handy
01:47:45 The Church Treats Book of Mormon People like Heavenly Mother
01:49:45 Stealing the Identities of Native Americans and Polynesians
01:52:15 Conclusion on DNA and the Book of Mormon
Show Notes: https://www.mormonstories.org/podcast...
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